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Dell tries selling netbooks with sexism? Win.


Wow, so Sean sent me an article this morning about Dell's latest trip to realm of political incorrectness. After reading it, I decided that the manufacturer did indeed deserve the cake of epic fail.

I have to say, I got a laugh out of it, and I know some of my co-workers enjoyed my take on the subject, which you can find on our front page. Seems Dell has been trying to reach the female consumer demographic and decided that the best way to go about this is by renaming themselves "Della," just for the ladies. Della even has its own website, away from the MANLY products on Dell's MANLY-MAN main site.

The entire site in general is kind of insulting to my intelligence, but I'm willing to let it slide. It's what they had on their Dell Tech Tips page that really irked me.
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3. Eat better: Find recipes online, store and organize them, and watch cooking videos.
4. Get organized: ‘Remember the Milk’ is a free, tweakable online task manager that’s easy to use.
What. The. Shit. Really? I mean, seriously? Screw you up the ass too, Dell. I may have stood up for them in the past for your reliable warranty service, solid products, and fair prices, but they really need to fire the moron who came up with that shit.

If you go to the Tech Tips page now, they've changed it to be more neutral overall, though I'm wondering why they even need a special suggestions page for Della. It still carries a mild condescending tone, though an Editor's Note a the top of the page states they've made some changes since the angry e-mails and letters flooded Dell HQ. It's definitely not the *bleep*ing apology they should be issuing.

Least they could do is make a Tech Tips page for MANLY Dell consumers, too... which must also be incredibly stereotypical. Turnabout is fair play, bitches. Article on Neoseeker front page is here, in case you're interested in more details and original links. Boy, am I *bleep*ing glad I bought my netbook from Asus.

Note: The original blog post had a lot more swearing, but the *bleep* tags really killed the flavor.

Update: Just received my E3 2009 Media All Access badge in the mail. Appointments are looking full, kinda of worried but excited at the same time.

Comments

  • 1 thumbs!
    tekmosis since Jul 2006 | May 15, 09
    I'm not sure I agree with your view on this. Without making too many assumptions people can easily jump to the conclusion that the site is 'politically incorrect'. Who's to say that the project lead who came up with the Della concept wasn't Female? I'm not saying it was but let's be open minded about this.

    We have no idea what kind of surveying and research Dell has done before hand to get a feel as to what demographics their Female customers fall into in terms of hobbies and recreational activities. The 'Remember the Milk' application is far from being targeted towards any gender in particular, their site is as vanilla as possible and from what I can tell they aren't even owned by Dell. Unfortunately, because of all the "complaining" from over enthusiastic....consumers, the people over at Remember the Milk are being unfairly stereotyped.

    Like Oz, I don't think targeting a certain demographic is being politically incorrect what so ever. I looked at the US Dell site and it's also not even remotely close to being gender specific. In fact, you could go the other way and point out the fact that their banner for grads only contains Females; the only image with people depicted on the frontpage. So, does that mean there are no Male grads out there? Dell's front page is sexist and so feminine.

    http://www.oprah.com/magazine/omagazine
    I see Cooking, Fashion, and look zomg a seperate section for MENS health?! ohnoes Oprah is sexist like Dell, what a bastard! ò_ó
    Last edited by tekmosis :: May 15, 09
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      RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | May 15, 09
      People can be sexist toward their own gender. I find it bizarre but have witnessed it firsthand.

      Uhm, and of course you are entitled to your opinions. But I don't think Oprah is a good comparison because it's always been geared toward a certain female demographic. If you would like tips on fashion, make-up, self-help, then yeah, her magazine is a good source. But the idea that a neutral product like Dell needing a more female-friendly line is troubling. While the Della line itself is not the issue here, their original marketing ploy was just not well thought out, and for many of us, the Tech Tips carried a condescending tone we didn't appreciate.

      For example, having a conversation with a hardware rep in person when he jokes that you would like their line of laptops because they come in red and pink is actually rather uncomfortable, despite the seemingly harmless nature of it. Why? Because he doesn't know me, but he assumes that he does based on the fact that I am female before any other consumer type, such as gamer or writer... despite the badge around my neck that read "Media."
      Last edited by RabidChinaGirl :: May 15, 09
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    RHJ44 since Mar 2009 | May 14, 09
    i never heard that.....................................
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    kik36 since Apr 2007 | May 14, 09
    LMFAO LMFAO That's right, Dell(a) agrees.......get your asses back in the kitchen, cook us some food and organize the cabinets while you're in there biatches!!! LMFAO

    That's funny as hell! I'm assuming the Dell man site will have tips for tuning their engines, garage organization ideas, and "how to get the last drop from that budweiser can while your old lady takes her sweet ass time getting you a new one." LMFAO LMFAO
    • 0 thumbs!
      RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | May 15, 09
      Or how to turn your netbook into an effective coaster.
  • 3 thumbs!
    Superfast Oz since Nov 2001 | May 15, 09
    That's pretty dense of them really. I don't think having a re-branded product for females is sexist at all, but cooking/shopping references are just begging for criticism. That said, it's got them some nice publicity courtesy of Neoseeker.
    • 0 thumbs!
      RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | May 15, 09
      Agreed. While I personally think the "Della" thing is rather lame, like I said earlier, I can't knock them too much for it since that's reasonable marketing, though PERSONALLY I don't support widening the gender schism through this kind of advertising. But the way they tried to sell this with the original Tech Tips is just sad and ridiculous.

      "Remember the Milk" application? Give me a break!
      Last edited by RabidChinaGirl :: May 15, 09
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        Xenctuary since May 2001 | May 15, 09
        Uh, Remember The Milk is actually a really neat application that was in existence long before Dell's Della marketing campaign. It's just a productivity tool which has unfortunately been associated with gender stereotyping.
        Last edited by Xenctuary :: May 15, 09
        • 0 thumbs!
          RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | May 15, 09
          Companies really can't afford to make any such mis-steps or people get upset. Hm... Apple and baby shaking.

          Anyway, I think overall it was a very foolish decision by Dell. Regardless of what you think of the advertising campaign itself, this kind of thing is literally just asking for trouble, and their PR seemed to forget that when this was OK'd.
          Last edited by RabidChinaGirl :: May 15, 09
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      Xenctuary since May 2001 | May 15, 09
      Remember the products themselves are still exactly the same. This is merely a "buyers guide" aimed primarily at women with a little to none technical knowledge of laptops.
      Last edited by Xenctuary :: May 15, 09
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    tomchu since Dec 2004 | May 15, 09
    Very rarely do companies try to imply a double meaning behind some marketing campaign like this. As Jamie suggested, they probably did their research*, and then went ahead with this. Assuming otherwise is unwarranted, indignant paranoia.

    What I think is more silly is stirring up a feminist storm in a tea cup over a couple of pieces of stock photography depicting a bunch of happy women with colorful laptops. As Jamie also pointed out, I could just as easily man-rage at the "suggestion" that only females graduate -- but I don't, because it's freaking stock photography, and everyone knows a bunch of pretty women on a website will sell more product than a bunch of dongs.

    • Research:

    "Hello, are there any females between the ages of 18 to 35 in the household?"
    "Yes, I am"
    "Could we please have a minutes of your time? We're conducting a survey on behalf of Dell. Dell is interested in increasing their marketshare among young women, blah blah blah."
    ...
    "Would you be more inclined to consider a Dell computer if given the choice between a number of warm colors, stylized edges, and a software suite more slanted towards young women?""
    "Sure, I guess"

    BAM. POSITIVE RESPONSE TO A CAREFULLY CRAFTED QUESTION. Multiply the above by 2,000 out of 4,000 surveyed, and you have a marketing campaign! No sexism involved.

    PS: Dell isn't forcing you to buy these laptops.
    • 1 thumbs!
      VeGiTAX2 since Apr 2001 | May 15, 09
      Think the issue also tends to fall less on it being a womens line and more on how it was focusing on how you can organize your recipes, remember your kids soccer practice, pta meetings and etc. Instead of catering to a gender they were pinning it up as women are all housewives and this should be a good way to get them in.

      It's not some mystery that consulting companies poll a small group of people and extract generalized findings based off of loose answers to questions.

      The move that failed was marking a brand to a minority of a gender and pandering it as a majority solution. It's why you have a marketing team to begin with and do product placement testing in live situations before launching a new brand.

      Dell isn't forcing anyone to buy their laptops, they're just giving people a lot less reason to with bonehead moves short battery life and so on. Focus on the meat of the issue that they're trying to bury up already instead of their fumbling corrections later.

      They could have had something decent with Della but they failed to execute on it with actual field testing before jumping into the fray. This isn't 1950's America with the idea of Susie Homemaker holding up the fort and just worrying about what she's going to make hubby for dinner.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Xenctuary since May 2001 | May 15, 09
    It's worth noting that the controversy over this issue has caused Dell to drop the "Della" logo. It's a shame because I thought it was pretty cool. I wonder if removing the logo counts as another anti-feminist action...
    Last edited by Xenctuary :: May 15, 09
    • 1 thumbs!
      RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | May 15, 09
      Thanks for the update, Xenc. Pretty interesting to see how Dell responded to the controversy. Shame, they could've really done something with that had they spun it in another direction, but I won't be losing any sleep over the loss, either.

      Stereotypes exist to be broken.
      Last edited by RabidChinaGirl :: May 15, 09
    • -1 thumbs!
      tomchu since Dec 2004 | May 15, 09
      Everything can be spun to be sexist by raging feminists.
    • 1 thumbs!
      kik36 since Apr 2007 | May 16, 09
      Oh damn, that sucks. While I did find the stereotypes to be a tad bit overdone and funny......it's a shame that some women are afraid to be feminine in nature. It's all good ladies, I enjoy femininity!!
  • 0 thumbs!
    Xenctuary since May 2001 | May 15, 09
    Here's what the logo looked like before, by the way:



    Much friendlier!
    Last edited by Xenctuary :: May 15, 09
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      VeGiTAX2 since Apr 2001 | May 15, 09
      More reason why division suicide doesn't make sense. It's almost sad that some of the recent I'm a pc examples (MS Campaign) from women make this display look very uninspired / generic.
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